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		<title>By: Rediscovering Ratatouille - Steve Clancy</title>
		<link>http://cartoonoveranalyzations.com/2008/05/11/ratatouille-as-a-metaphorical-history-of-disney-and-pixar/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Rediscovering Ratatouille - Steve Clancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] microwaveable Gusteau meals are kind of a giveaway, think of all those direct-to-video sequels). This blogger gives a more in depth analysis of what it all means. What&#8217;s also funny about it all is that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] microwaveable Gusteau meals are kind of a giveaway, think of all those direct-to-video sequels). This blogger gives a more in depth analysis of what it all means. What&#8217;s also funny about it all is that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't really know about how to fit Steve Jobs in.  In some ways, Remmy kind of acts as the icon for Pixar with Lasseter mannerisms, but I suppose there's some Steve Jobs in there as well if Remmy's representing the company.  I'd like to say Remmy's father is a bit Jobs-ish (they have a similar take on partnership/family, and I think Jobs was more ready to cut from Disney when troubles started and definitely came out as very anti-Eisner, which might be seen as reflected in Remmy's dad's take on humans), but that's an angle I hadn't really thought about much.  Good point, Scoo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really know about how to fit Steve Jobs in.  In some ways, Remmy kind of acts as the icon for Pixar with Lasseter mannerisms, but I suppose there&#8217;s some Steve Jobs in there as well if Remmy&#8217;s representing the company.  I&#8217;d like to say Remmy&#8217;s father is a bit Jobs-ish (they have a similar take on partnership/family, and I think Jobs was more ready to cut from Disney when troubles started and definitely came out as very anti-Eisner, which might be seen as reflected in Remmy&#8217;s dad&#8217;s take on humans), but that&#8217;s an angle I hadn&#8217;t really thought about much.  Good point, Scoo!</p>
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		<title>By: Scoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating over analysis, it's posts like this that got me to this site in the first place. But who is Steve Jobs? You can't have a complete Pixar story without him. That minor quibble aside, first rate stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating over analysis, it&#8217;s posts like this that got me to this site in the first place. But who is Steve Jobs? You can&#8217;t have a complete Pixar story without him. That minor quibble aside, first rate stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Edward!  Yeah, I wasn't thinking much about the early Lasseter days with his testing of Where the Wild Things Are and other early delving into mixing CG and 2D.  That actually plays extremely well into the metaphor though, as he starts out wanting something bigger and gets told that his talents are only useful if they make things cheaper and easier (the poison testing as opposed to cooking early on).  I've been wanting to check out "the Pixar Story", but haven't had the time to watch it yet.  So much of the Pixar history I know comes from following their issues with Disney when I was in college, little documentaries on DVDs, and conversations with ex-Disney Animation professors.  I hope that, when I do get a chance to see it, I find even more connections.

Like you said, I also don't think Ratatouille is necessarily an absolutely perfect, point for point fit to the history, but as a very strong metaphorical mirror to the events surrounding Pixar and Disney, it definitely seems to hold up.

I know Brad Bird writes a lot based on his life and work experiences and that the "rat in the kitchen" concept was one he was handed to retool, so seeing him take that idea and build it over the skeleton of Pixar's history with Disney makes a lot of sense to me, especially after he'd just come off of the Incredibles which restored some of his faith in animation after the disillusionment that he was hit with from Iron Giant.  Kind of a secret thank you to Pixar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Edward!  Yeah, I wasn&#8217;t thinking much about the early Lasseter days with his testing of Where the Wild Things Are and other early delving into mixing CG and 2D.  That actually plays extremely well into the metaphor though, as he starts out wanting something bigger and gets told that his talents are only useful if they make things cheaper and easier (the poison testing as opposed to cooking early on).  I&#8217;ve been wanting to check out &#8220;the Pixar Story&#8221;, but haven&#8217;t had the time to watch it yet.  So much of the Pixar history I know comes from following their issues with Disney when I was in college, little documentaries on DVDs, and conversations with ex-Disney Animation professors.  I hope that, when I do get a chance to see it, I find even more connections.</p>
<p>Like you said, I also don&#8217;t think Ratatouille is necessarily an absolutely perfect, point for point fit to the history, but as a very strong metaphorical mirror to the events surrounding Pixar and Disney, it definitely seems to hold up.</p>
<p>I know Brad Bird writes a lot based on his life and work experiences and that the &#8220;rat in the kitchen&#8221; concept was one he was handed to retool, so seeing him take that idea and build it over the skeleton of Pixar&#8217;s history with Disney makes a lot of sense to me, especially after he&#8217;d just come off of the Incredibles which restored some of his faith in animation after the disillusionment that he was hit with from Iron Giant.  Kind of a secret thank you to Pixar.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Liu</title>
		<link>http://cartoonoveranalyzations.com/2008/05/11/ratatouille-as-a-metaphorical-history-of-disney-and-pixar/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know if Wordpress just doesn't like me any more, since all my comments on any WP-powered blog disappear into never never land and I don't think it's that everyone is just moderating me. At least I hope it isn't...

Interesting (if imperfect) interpretation. I'd probably re-spin the bit you mention in paragraph 4 to be Lasseter when he was working for Walt Disney Feature Animation. As they chronicle in "The Pixar Story," Lasseter started experimenting with CGI, but was told flat out that CGI was only useful to WDFA if it let them make films cheaper or faster. Shortly after he was told this, he was fired, and drifted off to join up with Ed Catmull over at Lucasfilm's CG project, which would become Pixar. However, it's a case where someone has real talent, but the only use that the community can think of for it is venal and petty instead of artistic.</description>
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<p>Interesting (if imperfect) interpretation. I&#8217;d probably re-spin the bit you mention in paragraph 4 to be Lasseter when he was working for Walt Disney Feature Animation. As they chronicle in &#8220;The Pixar Story,&#8221; Lasseter started experimenting with CGI, but was told flat out that CGI was only useful to WDFA if it let them make films cheaper or faster. Shortly after he was told this, he was fired, and drifted off to join up with Ed Catmull over at Lucasfilm&#8217;s CG project, which would become Pixar. However, it&#8217;s a case where someone has real talent, but the only use that the community can think of for it is venal and petty instead of artistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Liu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting spin on Ratatouille, but I'd say that the Remy at the end of paragraph 4 probably more closely matches to Lasseter in his last days at Disney before he was fired. As was chronicled in "The Pixar Story," Disney Feature Animation at the time was only interested in CGI if it could be used to make films cheaper or faster. They were completely uninterested in the idea of CGI as a filmmaking medium in its own right, and ultimately fired Lasseter after he did a demo to show how you could use a combination of CGI and hand-drawn animation that didn't go over well with management. It's a closer fit to the idea that Remy has skills and talents that those around him are ultimately only able to see the most venal uses for.

Of course, none of this is a perfect fit, but it's an interesting spin on Ratatouille as a movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting spin on Ratatouille, but I&#8217;d say that the Remy at the end of paragraph 4 probably more closely matches to Lasseter in his last days at Disney before he was fired. As was chronicled in &#8220;The Pixar Story,&#8221; Disney Feature Animation at the time was only interested in CGI if it could be used to make films cheaper or faster. They were completely uninterested in the idea of CGI as a filmmaking medium in its own right, and ultimately fired Lasseter after he did a demo to show how you could use a combination of CGI and hand-drawn animation that didn&#8217;t go over well with management. It&#8217;s a closer fit to the idea that Remy has skills and talents that those around him are ultimately only able to see the most venal uses for.</p>
<p>Of course, none of this is a perfect fit, but it&#8217;s an interesting spin on Ratatouille as a movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first explanation of &lt;i&gt;Ratatouille&lt;/i&gt; I've seen that justifies the everyman/talent moral at the end.  Bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first explanation of <i>Ratatouille</i> I&#8217;ve seen that justifies the everyman/talent moral at the end.  Bravo!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 07:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, brilliant. 
I love how you boil everything down, then explain it in a very easy to understand way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, brilliant.<br />
I love how you boil everything down, then explain it in a very easy to understand way.</p>
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		<title>By: shum</title>
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		<dc:creator>shum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 07:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keep up the over-analyzations, interesting to say the least!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keep up the over-analyzations, interesting to say the least!</p>
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